This week, Dining Room Studios is officially for sale and it is incredibly stressful. Chris Ballew of a little band called The Presidents of the United States of America joins Aaron to chat about how developing his sound with Morphine frontman Mark Sandman and making the transition from arena rock to children's rock... and loving every minute of it.

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Music featured in this week's episode: PUSA, and Caspar Babypants